tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6025276501437850375.post3840500441152470731..comments2024-01-13T00:25:03.997-08:00Comments on Get LOST with JOpinionated: LOST Season 5 Finale, Episode 5.16: "The Incident"Johttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16673632031827389282noreply@blogger.comBlogger56125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6025276501437850375.post-15517007294925502652009-05-30T16:15:07.982-07:002009-05-30T16:15:07.982-07:00Just a note on your Richard Alpert - Ricardo the E...Just a note on your Richard Alpert - Ricardo the Economist theory. While it is entirely possible, it is more likely that Richard Alpert is named after Richard Alpert, who was Timothy Leary's right hand man in developing LSD. You probably know him (if at all) by the name he later adopted, Ram Dass, but his name was originally Richard Alpert.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6025276501437850375.post-3189385360104063152009-05-26T05:33:40.806-07:002009-05-26T05:33:40.806-07:00Here's my thoughts
1) Richard may have been on the...Here's my thoughts<br />1) Richard may have been on the Black Rock. But, I think he is far older than that. From the beginning of the finale black shirt said that the same thing always happened when people came. He also said Jacob brought them there. Both comments are as in he had done that several times before. I don't think Jacob would visit each person. I think he sent Richard. I think RichardMarticusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6025276501437850375.post-32895196935477470142009-05-21T08:20:01.911-07:002009-05-21T08:20:01.911-07:00Illana asked for Ricardus, not Ricardo - Ricardus ...Illana asked for Ricardus, not Ricardo - Ricardus would be the nominative Latin form of Richard.White Rabbithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16060265099478307586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6025276501437850375.post-51413354585969464802009-05-19T08:31:00.000-07:002009-05-19T08:31:00.000-07:00Guys don't be so frustrated because Juliet is not ...Guys don't be so frustrated because Juliet is not gonna die!!!In my opinion she is in the same situation with Sawyer, Jack, Kate, Sayid, Jin , MIles, Hurley...<br /><br />From the moment we see that she survived the fall and she hits the bomb she has the same possibilities to survive as the others have!<br />If there's going to be an explosion they can't survive just because they were standing Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6025276501437850375.post-72113500589776122962009-05-17T12:04:00.000-07:002009-05-17T12:04:00.000-07:00I've been having all of these thoughts about the s...I've been having all of these thoughts about the show and trying to decide where to post them! This space seems most appropriate. :-P<br /><br />I just finished my 3rd viewing and it left me thinking:<br /><br />if everyone at the Swan location survives in some way, by either resetting time or god knows what they come up with, I don't think Juliet will be anymore dead than anyone else because sheHillaryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04443442445053670939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6025276501437850375.post-52245877910403636062009-05-17T10:28:00.000-07:002009-05-17T10:28:00.000-07:00Just mentioning...I keep reading about the fish sh...Just mentioning...I keep reading about the fish shown cooked at the beginning being an actual red herring.Hillaryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04443442445053670939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6025276501437850375.post-32205976330708010262009-05-16T23:19:00.000-07:002009-05-16T23:19:00.000-07:00I think Ilanna referred to Alpert as Richardus as ...I think Ilanna referred to Alpert as Richardus as like a funny in-joke that he's so old his original name was in Latin, like in Roman times. <br /><br />I'm gonna have to revisit all the scenes w/ Christian and all the cabin scenes. (seems so long ago!)<br /><br />I remember 3 cabin scenes, the 1st w/ Locke and Ben, then Hurley and Christian and an unseen body, and then w/ Locke and Christian, nines9https://www.blogger.com/profile/14394353605570788389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6025276501437850375.post-83656232301925030032009-05-16T15:51:00.000-07:002009-05-16T15:51:00.000-07:00Almost, Jo :-) I just answered the question as to ...Almost, Jo :-) I just answered the question as to why they used the word "loophole", which, as sofuturegeneration noticed, means "weak point" but also "means of escape" or "way out" in terms of there being a time loop. Things that are obvious in English aren't necessarily so in other languages... a good example is Desmond's famous "brother", which only really made sense after we knew he had been Sherylmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03655704819519115035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6025276501437850375.post-43520449481039462202009-05-16T14:23:00.000-07:002009-05-16T14:23:00.000-07:00I don't speak French, but I used an online transla...I don't speak French, but I used an online translation site for Sherylm's response to Sofuturegeneration's comment:<br /><br />'loophole' means "escape" or "exit door" - here, I think, in the sense that the time loop turnsJohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16673632031827389282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6025276501437850375.post-67890817631447482992009-05-16T13:27:00.000-07:002009-05-16T13:27:00.000-07:00Sofuturegeneration, 'loophole' veut dire "échappat...Sofuturegeneration, 'loophole' veut dire "échappatoire" ou bien "porte de sortie" - ici, je crois, dans le sens où le temps se retourne en boucleSherylmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03655704819519115035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6025276501437850375.post-61902468754392630812009-05-16T08:23:00.000-07:002009-05-16T08:23:00.000-07:00nines9:
What was important about Jacob visiting t...nines9:<br /><br />What was important about Jacob visiting the 815'ers wasn't what he said but the fact that he TOUCHED everybody. This is very very important. What it signifies is open for debate, but it is almost as if he has marked these people as special. I believe he is using them to counter moves made by man#2. Although, he didn't touch Illiana he seemed to know her from before and her neolokihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00428457820273320110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6025276501437850375.post-34826497321749604482009-05-16T06:03:00.000-07:002009-05-16T06:03:00.000-07:00I like your Bentham/Loke theory. It just fits mine...I like your Bentham/Loke theory. It just fits mine : Locke is not dead and will be back in this body : when he turns the wheel, he sends his mind and a clone body, his body stays and Man#2 gets it. Bentham dies so Locke should be back in his original body one day or another, he can't be dead!<br />So is there a double ben? And why Ben doesn't theorize that possibility? He knows about the bunnies CeQuiFaitDemainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07544920277980554975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6025276501437850375.post-74487847981593313112009-05-16T05:15:00.000-07:002009-05-16T05:15:00.000-07:00Great, long analysis, and so now I'm going to make...Great, long analysis, and so now I'm going to make some of my own observations and some responses to your comments. <br /><br />1) Richard - I think he may be the captain of the Black Rock, or someone who was important wherever it was he came from. The conversation between Jacob and MM indicated Jacob brought the Black Rock to the island, so chances are he chose them for a reason. I also think Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13086087007028273338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6025276501437850375.post-26552575986171495232009-05-16T03:18:00.000-07:002009-05-16T03:18:00.000-07:00Good late night write-up, JO. I was really sad abo...Good late night write-up, JO. I was really sad about Juliet's apparent death but since she was not dead in the scene where she set off the h-bomb, she should have just as much chance as anyone else of making it out of there alive. I know that I hope that she and 'James' will get another chance.<br /><br />I must say that I had always understood that the only way to set off a nuclear weapon was bySherylmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03655704819519115035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6025276501437850375.post-28302101743904064372009-05-16T01:55:00.000-07:002009-05-16T01:55:00.000-07:00One of the more annoying, and yet interesting, thi...One of the more annoying, and yet interesting, things about the show is how they lead you to assume one concept will unravel the mystery for you, and it just leads to something far more complex. In the past, 'what's inside the hatch' will mean everything. Then it was the 'inhabitants on the island,' they know all the secrets, and it turns out only a couple know much of anything. Then they nines9https://www.blogger.com/profile/14394353605570788389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6025276501437850375.post-30819140734581376322009-05-16T01:04:00.000-07:002009-05-16T01:04:00.000-07:00I do think it's important to remember that MM was ...I do think it's important to remember that MM was conducting the Long Con of all Long Cons in order to kill Jacob. But like Jesus, I believe Jacob saw it coming and has, if not a master plan himself, hope that the human race as exemplified by the 815'ers will triumph over evil in the end.<br /><br />And for all the Juliet lovers like myself, I have to hope that after the war ends late next seasonbriguyxnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6025276501437850375.post-65975717607963307192009-05-15T21:15:00.000-07:002009-05-15T21:15:00.000-07:00This has probably been mentioned by others elsewhe...<B>This has probably been mentioned by others elsewhere, but I just thought of it today. First thing this morning, actually, which is either sad or obsessive or I dunno what…lol<br /><br />OK – 815 was 1000 miles off-course and heading to Figi when it crashed, no? So they wouldn’t have landed in LAX as intended. Who knows what could have/will happen with that layover? Without radio contact, if itHillaryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04443442445053670939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6025276501437850375.post-73755434339755214032009-05-15T13:43:00.000-07:002009-05-15T13:43:00.000-07:00Here's are few things that I've been thinking abou...Here's are few things that I've been thinking about. Remember how Jacob touched most everyone with a quick touch on the nose, shoulder, finger, but with a longer grasp for John after he fell from the window. Yet, after Ben stabbed him twice, Jacob put Ben in almost a bear hug as he fell forward, smearing his blood all over the front of Ben's shirt. Did Jacob just "transfer" to Ben in the Darrinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6025276501437850375.post-12370850217672927462009-05-15T10:33:00.000-07:002009-05-15T10:33:00.000-07:00I have an alternate theory to Jacob's visitation o...I have an alternate theory to Jacob's visitation of the Losties at other points in their lives. Remember that when the Losties arrived on the island, Ben's folks didn't know to expect them. He had to dispatch people to prepare "lists" of who they were. It seems like he then submitted that information to Jacob, who in turn provided a list of the "good" ones. I think Jacob, being all magical, dr.girlfriendnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6025276501437850375.post-88356665730386087902009-05-15T06:36:00.000-07:002009-05-15T06:36:00.000-07:00Excellent commentary on this episode!! :)
I defin...Excellent commentary on this episode!! :)<br /><br />I definitely think that Jacob's "frenemy" could have been responsible for a lot of what's been going on. I think he was probably the one that said "help me" in the cabin. But I also think there's a third force at work here -- whatever used Alex to communicate with Ben. Because "Locke" did not seem aware that Ben had been visited by his AllisonRhttp://www.allisonruffing.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6025276501437850375.post-87795910928809773952009-05-14T23:32:00.000-07:002009-05-14T23:32:00.000-07:00I love this blog, Jo! Thanks.
Just want to add t...I love this blog, Jo! Thanks.<br /><br />Just want to add to the comments. So many things bouncing in my head. Apologize for the lack of order, just kinda free writing:<br /><br /><B>Mystery Man</B>: as soon as that opening scene ended in Jacob being named, I thought MM must be Smokey. (black clothes) <br /><br /><B>Gods/Mythology</B>: Black/white, good/evil, fate/free will... Gods of Bzurcnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6025276501437850375.post-40108758993618474692009-05-14T22:59:00.000-07:002009-05-14T22:59:00.000-07:00Wow... I finished the episodes in a frenzy this mo...Wow... I finished the episodes in a frenzy this morning before work. Must rewatch now after reading all this.<br /><br />After reading the post I definitely got the feeling that Smokey is Mystery Man. I would love if you did a Smokey revisit of the times we have seen him and who he has killed. Is there some correlation to this. I especially was thinking of Ben visiting him to see if he was worthyNurbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16922482907790205993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6025276501437850375.post-28656605914008580982009-05-14T22:13:00.000-07:002009-05-14T22:13:00.000-07:00Just for that scene Elizabeth Mitchell deserves an...Just for that scene Elizabeth Mitchell deserves an Emmy ... she was amazing! Love her and will miss her as Juliet too :(Erwinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6025276501437850375.post-87032384734306550302009-05-14T21:32:00.000-07:002009-05-14T21:32:00.000-07:00Great blog, and great post. Just woke up so I have...Great blog, and great post. Just woke up so I have no coherent comments, just wanted to say thanks to you and all the commenters!arbitraryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08971235851191808868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6025276501437850375.post-90605021096096551802009-05-14T20:47:00.000-07:002009-05-14T20:47:00.000-07:00RIP Juliet. You will be missed.
Even since I saw J...RIP Juliet. You will be missed.<br />Even since I saw Juliet and Sawyer drinking rum on the beach at the end of season 4, I had my hopes for a love connection. . .so sad. thanks Jo for all your thoughts + theories. It will be agony to wait until 2010!Karinnoreply@blogger.com